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	<description>&#34;Cinema does not cry. Cinema does not comfort us. It is with us. It is us&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down &#171; The Seventh Art</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down &#171; The Seventh Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to debutant filmmaker Abhishek Chaubey (who shares the writing credits of Kaminey (2009)), I’ve been able to watch a film that is completely unprovocative, after a long time. As [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to debutant filmmaker Abhishek Chaubey (who shares the writing credits of Kaminey (2009)), I’ve been able to watch a film that is completely unprovocative, after a long time. As [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Grand Illousion &#171; The Seventh Art</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Grand Illousion &#171; The Seventh Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a single stylistic umbrella despite their vast disparity. One deadly flaw that Vishal Bhardwaj’s Kaminey (2009) had was that, in an attempt to marry genres, he ended up marrying styles too, which made the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a single stylistic umbrella despite their vast disparity. One deadly flaw that Vishal Bhardwaj’s Kaminey (2009) had was that, in an attempt to marry genres, he ended up marrying styles too, which made the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2164</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satyanshu,

I never believe in considering the efforts behind making a film as an indicator of quality and a tool for compromise. I really admire the guts of the director to go through it all. But that I think should stay away from viewing the final product. If efforts were a yardstick in appreciating movies, then films like Fizzcarraldo, 81/2 etc. would be masterpieces even if they hadn&#039;t released.

Yes, I see how cherished it is for people in the industry to see a film like Kaminey come out of the studios, but that is because I feel those people almost always give weight to the conditions under which it was made more than anything.

I also believe that comparing Gaddaar is a valid one because it is the kind of film Kaminey wants to be and falls short. Instead of speculating, it is always better to see it alongside a film that has done it gloriously.

Thanks,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyanshu,</p>
<p>I never believe in considering the efforts behind making a film as an indicator of quality and a tool for compromise. I really admire the guts of the director to go through it all. But that I think should stay away from viewing the final product. If efforts were a yardstick in appreciating movies, then films like Fizzcarraldo, 81/2 etc. would be masterpieces even if they hadn&#8217;t released.</p>
<p>Yes, I see how cherished it is for people in the industry to see a film like Kaminey come out of the studios, but that is because I feel those people almost always give weight to the conditions under which it was made more than anything.</p>
<p>I also believe that comparing Gaddaar is a valid one because it is the kind of film Kaminey wants to be and falls short. Instead of speculating, it is always better to see it alongside a film that has done it gloriously.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Satyanshu Singh</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Satyanshu Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must appreciate the intellectual level of thinking and the impressive command over language you and some other posters here have. Please take it as a complement.

But the kind of analysis you make, just think it this way, it would be possible to find serious flaws in Citizen Kane and 2001: A Space Odyssey and Pather Panchali and what not. I have an observation although, those who are not satisfied with Kaminey belong to a group that takes cinema a lot more seriously than others. 

I am a struggling writer-director in Mumbai, my younger brother is an assistant director and we keep meeting people from the film industry. And if you were among us, you would know, how important Kaminey is for Hindi Cinema. And how difficult it is to make such a film.

Anyways, I am a person who believes in appreciating more than criticizing. Guess this is the problem with me. 

And one final word, I am sick of people saying &#039;Maqbool was far better than Kaminey.&#039; Not that I disagree. Only if all those people had taken the trouble to watch Maqbool in a theatre, perhaps it would not have been a loser at the box-office. When a &#039;Johnny Gaddar&#039; or a &#039;Sankat City&#039; comes, we conveniently miss it. We catch it later and when a &#039;Kaminey&#039; gets some loud praise we let out that wise tone: &#039;Johnny Gaddar was better&#039;.

If only we could appreciate efforts, honestly....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must appreciate the intellectual level of thinking and the impressive command over language you and some other posters here have. Please take it as a complement.</p>
<p>But the kind of analysis you make, just think it this way, it would be possible to find serious flaws in Citizen Kane and 2001: A Space Odyssey and Pather Panchali and what not. I have an observation although, those who are not satisfied with Kaminey belong to a group that takes cinema a lot more seriously than others. </p>
<p>I am a struggling writer-director in Mumbai, my younger brother is an assistant director and we keep meeting people from the film industry. And if you were among us, you would know, how important Kaminey is for Hindi Cinema. And how difficult it is to make such a film.</p>
<p>Anyways, I am a person who believes in appreciating more than criticizing. Guess this is the problem with me. </p>
<p>And one final word, I am sick of people saying &#8216;Maqbool was far better than Kaminey.&#8217; Not that I disagree. Only if all those people had taken the trouble to watch Maqbool in a theatre, perhaps it would not have been a loser at the box-office. When a &#8216;Johnny Gaddar&#8217; or a &#8216;Sankat City&#8217; comes, we conveniently miss it. We catch it later and when a &#8216;Kaminey&#8217; gets some loud praise we let out that wise tone: &#8216;Johnny Gaddar was better&#8217;.</p>
<p>If only we could appreciate efforts, honestly&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Arjun Arora</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arjun Arora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sankat City DVD&#039;s and CD&#039;s are out!! Waiting to hear your take on it....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sankat City DVD&#8217;s and CD&#8217;s are out!! Waiting to hear your take on it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Another Film Buff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bangalore would make a great geographical equivalent of Kaminey (if you will allow for some stupid comparisons that is) - floating in Pizzas and Burgers, but never ever tasty as Vada Paavs or Paav Bhajis ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bangalore would make a great geographical equivalent of Kaminey (if you will allow for some stupid comparisons that is) &#8211; floating in Pizzas and Burgers, but never ever tasty as Vada Paavs or Paav Bhajis </p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Another Film Buff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that was missing from the final song was a subtitle reading &quot;Crime doesn&#039;t pay&quot;. I couldn&#039;t even see all of this as a &quot;glorious mess&quot;. Plain mess. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that was missing from the final song was a subtitle reading &#8220;Crime doesn&#8217;t pay&#8221;. I couldn&#8217;t even see all of this as a &#8220;glorious mess&#8221;. Plain mess. </p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siddharth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i also had a tactile moment of beauty when i developed a massive craving for vada pav.. one i haven&#039;t been able to fulfill yet.. 

bangalore should have more vada pav]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also had a tactile moment of beauty when i developed a massive craving for vada pav.. one i haven&#8217;t been able to fulfill yet.. </p>
<p>bangalore should have more vada pav</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siddharth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well.. for one.. i can&#039;t get my head around the leads.. shahid kapoor and priyanka chopra.. i mean, who are they kiddin.. you needed someone like a younger sanjay dutt.. an original badass.. if he has a gun in his hand.. you don&#039;t call it a gun.. you say- ghoda.. and for the girl you needed someone like urmila in daud.. i mean, chopra&#039;s an airhead and plastic.. the first half of the film, i squirmed through.. i love the second half though.. i thought it went real abstract.. without rhyme or reason it jogged ahead.. i loved the shabby cinematography and those pointless montages of mumbai and the black and white footage.. the plot became so very perfunctory.. but the movie bogged me down yet again with that lousy &#039;ending shootout&#039; song.. i mean, come on, VB, how come you suddenly choose to go all jingo on me now. whats with the righteousness?

i still like it for some tiny pleasures tucked away in the periphery.

I also hate the way he fucked up the soundtrack. the songs deserved better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well.. for one.. i can&#8217;t get my head around the leads.. shahid kapoor and priyanka chopra.. i mean, who are they kiddin.. you needed someone like a younger sanjay dutt.. an original badass.. if he has a gun in his hand.. you don&#8217;t call it a gun.. you say- ghoda.. and for the girl you needed someone like urmila in daud.. i mean, chopra&#8217;s an airhead and plastic.. the first half of the film, i squirmed through.. i love the second half though.. i thought it went real abstract.. without rhyme or reason it jogged ahead.. i loved the shabby cinematography and those pointless montages of mumbai and the black and white footage.. the plot became so very perfunctory.. but the movie bogged me down yet again with that lousy &#8216;ending shootout&#8217; song.. i mean, come on, VB, how come you suddenly choose to go all jingo on me now. whats with the righteousness?</p>
<p>i still like it for some tiny pleasures tucked away in the periphery.</p>
<p>I also hate the way he fucked up the soundtrack. the songs deserved better.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/08/14/brotherf-in-armf/#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Another Film Buff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In fact, I would have loved if the film had elaborated on the Bhai Bhai confrontation. 

I would have preferred one of the brothers being played by some other actor. That way, we could have had a crackling buddy movie, where the bros fly at each other&#039;s throats, spouting one liners all the way. I am not able to think of a comparison now, the closest that comes to my mind is Thiruda Thiruda (Chor Chor)- incidentally a witty RGV script.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I would have loved if the film had elaborated on the Bhai Bhai confrontation. </p>
<p>I would have preferred one of the brothers being played by some other actor. That way, we could have had a crackling buddy movie, where the bros fly at each other&#8217;s throats, spouting one liners all the way. I am not able to think of a comparison now, the closest that comes to my mind is Thiruda Thiruda (Chor Chor)- incidentally a witty RGV script.</p>
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