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	<title>Comments on: Book Nook: What Is Cinema? Vol. II</title>
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	<description>&#34;Cinema does not cry. Cinema does not comfort us. It is with us. It is us&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/15/book-nook-what-is-cinema-vol-ii/#comment-2442</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree completely. I guess, Verdoux was turned down by the public just because they were reluctant to move away from the likes of City Lights and The Gold Rush or because they could not view Chaplin the artist separately from Chaplin the man. 

Cheers! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree completely. I guess, Verdoux was turned down by the public just because they were reluctant to move away from the likes of City Lights and The Gold Rush or because they could not view Chaplin the artist separately from Chaplin the man. </p>
<p>Cheers! </p>
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		<title>By: John Greco</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“He examines how society has, in fact, killed Charlie and how Verdoux is a revenge of sorts for Chaplin. Bazin takes into consideration the whole of Chaplin’s filmography to explore the significance of Monsieur Verdoux, both to Chaplin and to Hollywood.”

By the time Verdoux was released Chaplin had been subject to much controversy  in the United States, personally and politically, so I can readily understand Bazin’s assumption that the film is “a revenge of sorts.” With  many celebrities and political icons Americans have a  love affair with placing these heroes or  symbols on a pedestal and then proceed to knock them down when they do not act as anticipated. I am old to enough to remember Jackie Kenndy’s iconic status after the President’s assassination and how she was denigrated some years later after marrying Onassis.    

IMO Verdoux is in the same class City Lights, Modern Times and The Gold Rush. It is a brilliant black comedy, pioneering for a time when there was nothing like it on the screen.

I read this book back in the 70’s when I still had not seen many of the films discussed, but having corrected that position over the years, I probably should revisit it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“He examines how society has, in fact, killed Charlie and how Verdoux is a revenge of sorts for Chaplin. Bazin takes into consideration the whole of Chaplin’s filmography to explore the significance of Monsieur Verdoux, both to Chaplin and to Hollywood.”</p>
<p>By the time Verdoux was released Chaplin had been subject to much controversy  in the United States, personally and politically, so I can readily understand Bazin’s assumption that the film is “a revenge of sorts.” With  many celebrities and political icons Americans have a  love affair with placing these heroes or  symbols on a pedestal and then proceed to knock them down when they do not act as anticipated. I am old to enough to remember Jackie Kenndy’s iconic status after the President’s assassination and how she was denigrated some years later after marrying Onassis.    </p>
<p>IMO Verdoux is in the same class City Lights, Modern Times and The Gold Rush. It is a brilliant black comedy, pioneering for a time when there was nothing like it on the screen.</p>
<p>I read this book back in the 70’s when I still had not seen many of the films discussed, but having corrected that position over the years, I probably should revisit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jamie. Looking forward to more discussions here and elsewhere... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jamie. Looking forward to more discussions here and elsewhere&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been meaning to visit and comment here on a regular basis after siding with you several times over at WitD. 

You have a fantastic blog here, and this post about a set of books I&#039;ve wanted for some time is superb. Consider yourself bookmarked, and the recipient of a new found &#039;regular&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to visit and comment here on a regular basis after siding with you several times over at WitD. </p>
<p>You have a fantastic blog here, and this post about a set of books I&#8217;ve wanted for some time is superb. Consider yourself bookmarked, and the recipient of a new found &#8216;regular&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Morning Diary (November 16) &#171; Wonders in the Dark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monday Morning Diary (November 16) &#171; Wonders in the Dark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Our new friend &#8220;Just Another Film Buff&#8221; is far more than a film buff&#8211;he&#8217;s a film scholar in fact, and his newest essay on Andre Bazin deserves wide exposure: http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/15/book-nook-what-is-cinema-vol-ii/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our new friend &#8220;Just Another Film Buff&#8221; is far more than a film buff&#8211;he&#8217;s a film scholar in fact, and his newest essay on Andre Bazin deserves wide exposure: <a href="http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/15/book-nook-what-is-cinema-vol-ii/" rel="nofollow">http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/15/book-nook-what-is-cinema-vol-ii/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/15/book-nook-what-is-cinema-vol-ii/#comment-2434</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

The statement that Paisa is arguably the greatest neorealist film, here, is actually my opinion. Bazin seems to wholeheartedly agree with your contender here. So would I, almost. Paisa&#039;s strict refusal of sentiment, its to-the-book execution of neorealist principles and its rigorous aesthetics were a revelation to me, compared to the much-talked about Bicycle Thieves (which is one of my all time favorites too, but the joy of discovery was lesser in that).

I&#039;m not sure why critics cite Sansho as the greatest. I was swept away by Ugetsu, which I felt was far superior and timeless. I&#039;m seriously Ozu-deficient. Have to start eating Ozu sometime!

Hmm, I&#039;ve seen a very few Italian films. I like De Sica and Antonioni very much, but I would like to believe, as of now, that Bertolucci and Rossellini are the greatest Italian directors followed by Fellini (his use of symbols turns me off sometimes) and Pasolini (gotta see more of his works to arrive at a conclusion).

THanks for the comments, Sam!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>The statement that Paisa is arguably the greatest neorealist film, here, is actually my opinion. Bazin seems to wholeheartedly agree with your contender here. So would I, almost. Paisa&#8217;s strict refusal of sentiment, its to-the-book execution of neorealist principles and its rigorous aesthetics were a revelation to me, compared to the much-talked about Bicycle Thieves (which is one of my all time favorites too, but the joy of discovery was lesser in that).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why critics cite Sansho as the greatest. I was swept away by Ugetsu, which I felt was far superior and timeless. I&#8217;m seriously Ozu-deficient. Have to start eating Ozu sometime!</p>
<p>Hmm, I&#8217;ve seen a very few Italian films. I like De Sica and Antonioni very much, but I would like to believe, as of now, that Bertolucci and Rossellini are the greatest Italian directors followed by Fellini (his use of symbols turns me off sometimes) and Pasolini (gotta see more of his works to arrive at a conclusion).</p>
<p>THanks for the comments, Sam!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is followed by an analysis of Rossellini’s Paisa (1946), arguably the greatest neo-realist film, which studies the episodic narrative of the film, the elliptical nature of its editing and the ambiguity of reality that it offers.&quot;

I would strongly contend that De Sica&#039;s BICYCLE THIEVES is the greatest neo-realist film, though certainly another look at Rossellini&#039;s PAISAN in the January Criterion release of his three masterpieces in this form will give us another chance to explore Bazin&#039;s vaunted contention.  Still, when Bazin contends that &quot;love and compassion&quot; are at the center of De Sica&#039;s cinema he explains basically the wide appeal of the great italain, whose UMBERTO D several years later must surely be counted among cinema&#039;s masterpieces.

I am also one who prefers Mizoguchi to Kurosawa, (I also prefer OZu to him) but with Bazin, he admits later here that it&#039;s not a statement of humanity or style, but rather perhaps of taste. (although he dosen&#039;t say that exactly).  SANSHO THE BAILIFF (SANSHO DAYU) may well be the greatest film in the entire history of the cinema, a position that Robin Wood actually supports. It&#039;s final scene may be the most piercingly wrenching of all cinematic codas.  Of course French critics in general have always believed Mizoguchi to be the greatest Japanese director.

I love Rossellini (and Visconti) by the way, but only De Sica (perhaps because of the irresistible emotions he brings) challenges Fellini as greatest Italian director.

I have the first Bazin book on my shelf, but not this second, JAFB, so thanks for this truly essential and magnificent post.

I have already read though his position on MONSIEUR VERDOUX, and buy much of what he says, though CITY LIGHTS is Chaplin&#039;s masterpieces, and one of the truly great film sof all-time. (MODERN TIMES and THE GOLD RUSH are the strongest runners-up).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is followed by an analysis of Rossellini’s Paisa (1946), arguably the greatest neo-realist film, which studies the episodic narrative of the film, the elliptical nature of its editing and the ambiguity of reality that it offers.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would strongly contend that De Sica&#8217;s BICYCLE THIEVES is the greatest neo-realist film, though certainly another look at Rossellini&#8217;s PAISAN in the January Criterion release of his three masterpieces in this form will give us another chance to explore Bazin&#8217;s vaunted contention.  Still, when Bazin contends that &#8220;love and compassion&#8221; are at the center of De Sica&#8217;s cinema he explains basically the wide appeal of the great italain, whose UMBERTO D several years later must surely be counted among cinema&#8217;s masterpieces.</p>
<p>I am also one who prefers Mizoguchi to Kurosawa, (I also prefer OZu to him) but with Bazin, he admits later here that it&#8217;s not a statement of humanity or style, but rather perhaps of taste. (although he dosen&#8217;t say that exactly).  SANSHO THE BAILIFF (SANSHO DAYU) may well be the greatest film in the entire history of the cinema, a position that Robin Wood actually supports. It&#8217;s final scene may be the most piercingly wrenching of all cinematic codas.  Of course French critics in general have always believed Mizoguchi to be the greatest Japanese director.</p>
<p>I love Rossellini (and Visconti) by the way, but only De Sica (perhaps because of the irresistible emotions he brings) challenges Fellini as greatest Italian director.</p>
<p>I have the first Bazin book on my shelf, but not this second, JAFB, so thanks for this truly essential and magnificent post.</p>
<p>I have already read though his position on MONSIEUR VERDOUX, and buy much of what he says, though CITY LIGHTS is Chaplin&#8217;s masterpieces, and one of the truly great film sof all-time. (MODERN TIMES and THE GOLD RUSH are the strongest runners-up).</p>
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