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	<description>&#34;Cinema does not cry. Cinema does not comfort us. It is with us. It is us&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-3284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Another Film Buff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Arthi. My problem with the film was that there was no spirit of exploration in it. It does cinematically exactly what it rants against theoretically - Moral policing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Arthi. My problem with the film was that there was no spirit of exploration in it. It does cinematically exactly what it rants against theoretically &#8211; Moral policing.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthi</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-3283</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolute wow! Haven&#039;t watched the film n frankly have not much of an inclination either but a few of Henake&#039;s interviews @ this film that &#039;ve read indicate a certain leeway that the film denies as put forth and am leaning towards this idea here i find this quite unexpected....
JAFB this is good good reading stuff!...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute wow! Haven&#8217;t watched the film n frankly have not much of an inclination either but a few of Henake&#8217;s interviews @ this film that &#8216;ve read indicate a certain leeway that the film denies as put forth and am leaning towards this idea here i find this quite unexpected&#8230;.<br />
JAFB this is good good reading stuff!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-3089</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by saying progression I didn&#039;t mean that this particular film is better than rest work. I just felt that it was right time for the director to try something little different as the peak of what we knew as &quot;Hanekish&quot; type of work was reached. That was my impression.

Good luck watching old films, let me know what your feelings are!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by saying progression I didn&#8217;t mean that this particular film is better than rest work. I just felt that it was right time for the director to try something little different as the peak of what we knew as &#8220;Hanekish&#8221; type of work was reached. That was my impression.</p>
<p>Good luck watching old films, let me know what your feelings are!</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-3087</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Clint. I&#039;m intrigued that you see the film as a step in natural progression. Will have to check out other Haneke films then. 

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Clint. I&#8217;m intrigued that you see the film as a step in natural progression. Will have to check out other Haneke films then. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful reading. I personally rate this film higher, but you gave some great valid points.

More important things left aside, I agree with the notion that being familiar with Haneke&#039;s work will only help you appreciate this film. After seeing much of his works I couldn&#039;t help but feel that it was a natural progression for the director.

As for deterministic approach, it is less &quot;decided&quot; than Funny Games, but what film set in an outset of WWI won&#039;t feel a bit deterministic? The film &quot;breathes&quot; with the idea that something is wrong with the town and in this regard it has strange connection with Lars Von Trier&#039;s Dogville which is also about evil breeding among strict and austere small town community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful reading. I personally rate this film higher, but you gave some great valid points.</p>
<p>More important things left aside, I agree with the notion that being familiar with Haneke&#8217;s work will only help you appreciate this film. After seeing much of his works I couldn&#8217;t help but feel that it was a natural progression for the director.</p>
<p>As for deterministic approach, it is less &#8220;decided&#8221; than Funny Games, but what film set in an outset of WWI won&#8217;t feel a bit deterministic? The film &#8220;breathes&#8221; with the idea that something is wrong with the town and in this regard it has strange connection with Lars Von Trier&#8217;s Dogville which is also about evil breeding among strict and austere small town community.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-2766</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much, Troy. That is another gripe I have with Haneke&#039;s film. He clearly places himself over his audience and assaults them viscerally (this is something he seems to enjoy, from what I gather from his interviews). As you rightly say, his incrimination of the audience takes us away from a discussion, leaving scope only for a cold appreciation, if any, of the movie. I say, Werckmeister Harmonies is what this film attempts to be and falls short, big time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much, Troy. That is another gripe I have with Haneke&#8217;s film. He clearly places himself over his audience and assaults them viscerally (this is something he seems to enjoy, from what I gather from his interviews). As you rightly say, his incrimination of the audience takes us away from a discussion, leaving scope only for a cold appreciation, if any, of the movie. I say, Werckmeister Harmonies is what this film attempts to be and falls short, big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Olson</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-2765</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just watched this film last night and in looking around the blogosphere for critiques of it, I must say yours may be the best.  This is some fantastic writing.

I have to agree with the distancing effect he uses and how that sets a distinct tone in the film.  I both loved that and was frustrated by it, to the point where I think I come out of this with a very similar reaction to yours.

Of course, this was my first experience with Haneke, so I&#039;m guessing if I see a few more of his films, it may put this in a different light.

I notice you don&#039;t mention Haneke&#039;s notorious inclination towards messing with his audience.  From my perspective, the tricks he plays (the push/pull nature of the narrative and the purposeful teasing of violence) in some ways overshadow the points he may be trying to make.  In other words, the more I became convinced Haneke was using the movie to serve as a metatextual way to play a game with the viewer, the less impact his themes on fascism had.  

Again, I&#039;m torn on if this is good or bad, but if nothing else, it makes it all that much more interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched this film last night and in looking around the blogosphere for critiques of it, I must say yours may be the best.  This is some fantastic writing.</p>
<p>I have to agree with the distancing effect he uses and how that sets a distinct tone in the film.  I both loved that and was frustrated by it, to the point where I think I come out of this with a very similar reaction to yours.</p>
<p>Of course, this was my first experience with Haneke, so I&#8217;m guessing if I see a few more of his films, it may put this in a different light.</p>
<p>I notice you don&#8217;t mention Haneke&#8217;s notorious inclination towards messing with his audience.  From my perspective, the tricks he plays (the push/pull nature of the narrative and the purposeful teasing of violence) in some ways overshadow the points he may be trying to make.  In other words, the more I became convinced Haneke was using the movie to serve as a metatextual way to play a game with the viewer, the less impact his themes on fascism had.  </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m torn on if this is good or bad, but if nothing else, it makes it all that much more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Favorite Films Of 2009 &#171; The Seventh Art</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-2635</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The only worthy B&amp;W film of this year out of the four I saw (the other three being Haneke’s The White Ribbon, Villeneuve’s Polytechnique and Lu’s City of Life and Death, the last one being my candidate [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The only worthy B&amp;W film of this year out of the four I saw (the other three being Haneke’s The White Ribbon, Villeneuve’s Polytechnique and Lu’s City of Life and Death, the last one being my candidate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Morning Diary (December 14) &#171; Wonders in the Dark</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monday Morning Diary (December 14) &#171; Wonders in the Dark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from our friend &#8220;Just Another Film Buff&#8221; at hi splace, and it&#8217;s a must-read: http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/      Clint Eastwood&#8217;s INVICTUS is an out-and-out bad film, and easily the worst of his [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from our friend &#8220;Just Another Film Buff&#8221; at hi splace, and it&#8217;s a must-read: <a href="http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/" rel="nofollow">http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/</a>      Clint Eastwood&#8217;s INVICTUS is an out-and-out bad film, and easily the worst of his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another Film Buff</title>
		<link>http://theseventhart.info/2009/11/29/children-of-men/#comment-2510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Another Film Buff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mate... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mate&#8230; </p>
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